Ep. 15: From Hustle to Harmony: How to Quantum Leap in Life & Career with Elyse Archer
What if everything you’ve been told about success is wrong?
In this episode, Laura sits down with Elyse Archer, founder of She Sells® and Superhuman Selling—to shatter the “hard work equals success” myth and show you what true alignment with money, purpose, and abundance looks like.
Get ready for a heart-opening, belief-shifting conversation between two bold women who’ve redefined success on their own terms. Elyse Archer, international sales mentor and host of Superhuman Selling, joins Laura Dionisio to unpack her journey from corporate burnout to conscious abundance.
Together, they explore the uncomfortable but necessary pivots that lead to freedom—from unlearning grind culture to building a healthy relationship with money and self-worth. Elyse shares how she turned a decade of struggle into a quantum leap, transforming her annual income into her monthly income, all by shifting her identity, not her effort.
This one’s for the ambitious high-achiever who’s feeling the tug of misalignment and wondering, “Is there more?” (Spoiler: yes, and it starts with trusting your intuition.)
What You’ll Hear
✔️ How to debunk the “hard work equals success” myth once and for all
✔️ Elyse’s real talk on money, worthiness, and spiritual expansion
✔️ Why your comfort zone is secretly a cage—and how to break free
✔️ How to identify and release limiting beliefs about success
✔️ The spiritual and practical shifts that lead to quantum growth
✔️ What to do when your soul is craving a bigger vision
‘’Your comfort zone isn’t comfortable—it’s just familiar. Step out of it, and you’ll meet the version of you who was always meant to lead.” – Elyse Archer
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She Sells Magazine- https://elysearcher.com/she-sells-magazine/
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The Four Quadrants of Quantum Sales Growth™- https://elysearcher.com/4-quadrants-eof/
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You are listening to the pivot point where we unpack the defining moments that shift careers and lives. I'm your host, Laura Dionicio, a founder of Lead Intact , and my mission is to spotlight the raw real stories behind career pivots, the fears, the hopes. The messy middles and the bold decisions that follow if you're feeling stuck or quietly wondering what's next?
I hope these stories help you see yourself a little more clearly and inspire you to start moving toward your own dream life. Let's begin.
Introduction and Warm Welcome
Laura: Welcome
Elyse Archer: Welcome, Elyse Archer.
Laura: Point I created this largely because I was inspired by you also. Thank you so much for being here. How are you doing today?
Elyse Archer: I'm so excited for this. Laura, I just love you. I think that your voice needs to be heard by a lot of people. Your story needs to be heard. Everything that has happened up until this point and everything that is going to be happening over the next. However long here as you continue to quantum leap. Um, so I've been looking forward to this and I'm excited to be here with you.
Laura: Yeah, me too.
Elyse Archer's Background and Achievements
Laura: So how I know Elise is because she is the amazing founder and owner of She Sells and also Superhuman Selling, and she has
Elyse Archer: And she has been
Laura: a mentoring coach since like almost a year
Elyse Archer: like almost a year now,
Laura: Pretty incredible.
Elyse Archer: incredible
Laura: and I am so excited
Elyse Archer: and I'm so excited for.
Laura: get to know her as well. If you don't already know her, I'm gonna start off reading her official bio so that
Elyse Archer: So that everyone,
Laura: why you're amazing. Elise
Elyse Archer: Elise
Laura: the founder
Elyse Archer: the founder of
Laura: Selling, and
Elyse Archer: Selling and she Sells,
Laura: which empower
Elyse Archer: which empower entrepreneurs and sales professions to revolutionize how themselves,
Laura: Explode their income
Elyse Archer: their income, and achieve quantum groups in all areas.
Laura: An author
Elyse Archer: author.
Laura: Salesforce
Elyse Archer: Salesforce
Laura: influencer
Elyse Archer: influencer,
Laura: whose insights
Elyse Archer: whose insights have been featured
Laura: including Forbes and Inc. Elise is passionate
Elyse Archer: is passionate about empowering her clients to sell in a way that leverages their natural gifts and help them build
Laura: the way.
Elyse Archer: along.
Laura: She is
Elyse Archer: is an super international
Laura: and host of Superhuman Selling. Formerly she Sells radio she shares
Elyse Archer: she shared best practices from.
Laura: and sales professionals who have accomplished extraordinary goals. Welcome
Elyse Archer: Welcome. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Thank you. I'm excited.
Laura: Yeah, me too and
Elyse Archer: Yeah, me too. And offline.
Laura: one of the
Elyse Archer: one of the programs that I,
Laura: have gone
Elyse Archer: Have gone
Laura: her
Elyse Archer: is her
Laura: with
Elyse Archer: abundance with,
Laura: And so I have been
Elyse Archer: so I have been all about the ai. Yes, I
The Power of AI and Personal Hype
Laura: ran Elise's impressive bio my chat. GPT, Elise, you wanna hear it?
Elyse Archer: Love it. I, I am so curious because you and I were talking in the pre-chat about Laura's, Laura's AI is incredible.
Her chat, GPT is like the ultimate hype woman. So I thought, oh my gosh. Like, I, I need to hear this. So yes, please.
Laura: it, it's literally called Laura's Hype Translation.
Elyse Archer: That's great.
Laura: Okay, here we go. All right. You've heard her formal bio, but now I want you to imagine a chorus of angelic voices harmonizing as golden lights, pills across the sky, because that's the energy this woman brings. Elise Archer is a radiant force of nature.
She's a mentor, a coach, a walking permission slip to live your boldest, most beautiful,
Elyse Archer: beautiful
Laura: life. She doesn't just talk about goddess energy, she embodies it in a floaty,
Elyse Archer: in.
Laura: way, but
Elyse Archer: But
Laura: a grounded
Elyse Archer: a grounded real life,
Laura: this to
Elyse Archer: you can do this too.
Laura: instantly makes you feel like anything is possible. And on a personal
Elyse Archer: And on a personal note,
Laura: Elisa's
Elyse Archer: hearing Elisa's story the first time I ly understood
Laura: success
Elyse Archer: that success didn't have to
Laura: and overdrive before her.
I was deep in the belief that the harder you work, the more worthy you are.
That grinding
Elyse Archer: that grinding geek experience.
Laura: Elise,
Elyse Archer: But at least,
Laura: that
Elyse Archer: please flip that for me.
Laura: In two seconds,
Elyse Archer: two seconds,
Laura: she showed me
Elyse Archer: she showed me that the more successful you become,
Laura: you get to
Elyse Archer: the more you get to prioritize, run, rest, self-care, and peace. Mm.
Laura: helped me
Elyse Archer: She helped to be,
Laura: that if I wasn't constantly working my ass off, I was being lazy. This woman
Elyse Archer: this woman changed how I
Laura: and how I view myself. So take a deep
Elyse Archer: make a deep breath.
Laura: soak it in,
Elyse Archer: So,
Laura: and give it
Elyse Archer: and give it up.
Laura: one. only, the goddess
Elyse Archer: God is herself.
Laura: Archer. Yay.
Elyse Archer: That is great. I'm going to listen to that in the morning when I get up out of bed. Your chat is wonderful and so are you.
Laura: Thank you. But, but truly though, like that part about like success at, at least I have, I mean, you know,
Elyse Archer: I have, I.
Laura: You've coached me through this, but dismantling the hard work equals success. Took a lot
Elyse Archer: Yeah,
Laura: it started
Elyse Archer: and it started,
Laura: there
Elyse Archer: even
Laura: other way being, you know? So actually starting from
Elyse Archer: actually started from there. I would love to hear about what was
Laura: journey. Right. To pivoting from I need to work really hard. I'm lazy if I don't. And, and
Elyse Archer: and, and
Laura: kind
Elyse Archer: you.
Laura: that into who you are today?
Elyse Archer: Absolutely.
Debunking the Hard Work Myth
Elyse Archer: It's so funny, I was just before this recording, one of my own podcast episodes, debunking the myth that hard work will make you rich. And so it's, it's fun to just roll from that into this because, um, this is a myth. That we get to debunk, and it's something that I think a lot of us have bought into.
I think whether we grew up with parents who told us that if you wanna be successful, if you wanna make money, if you wanna be quote unquote stable, secure, et cetera, it's gonna take a lot of hard work, whether you grew up with that or not. I think it's also just in the collective consciousness, you know? I think that there's a lot of conditioning around to be successful.
It. Can only come through grind, through force, through effort. And I definitely bought into it and it's, and it's also not true, you know, and I'll speak a little more to my own journey, but what I'll say now is I think it's important that we question everything that we've been taught not just about money and business, but really about life.
And I think until we start questioning everything. We run our lives on default mode on autopilot. We create the same scenarios again and again. We create the same outcomes that maybe we saw our parents live out. Like I grew up upper middle class, like very blessed in that way. Uh, but my life modeled pretty much exactly what I saw growing up at home.
Like the good, the bad, the ugly, all of it. Until I started really thinking for myself and questioning everything that I had been taught, growing up. And so I wanna just first say, I think there's a big moment of freedom and liberation that comes when you start questioning things like to be successful.
It requires a lot of grind and hard work. Does it? I don't know. I mean, I work and I, I. I work hard, but it's not hard work, if that makes sense. Like I love my work. It's fun. I enjoy it. I also go on a lot of trips. I also prioritize self-care. I also work part-time hours. I also am a partner. I. To my husband, I am a mama to three kids under five.
Like, there's, and I, and I have fun and I, I love life. And so, um, so I, when I think about hard work, you know, to me raising these three little kids, I. Wiping a lot of tushes running around after people cleaning up all day long, like helping them process emotions like there, there's hard work or if you look at people who even, you know, work hard for money.
Construction workers. You know, my or my husband, he was a night shift respiratory therapist when I met him and did that job for a long time. That's hard work. It's an hourly wage. The only way you're gonna make more money is by working more hours. Um, and so, or you go up the ladder there, but it takes a long time and the gains are only incremental.
So I think about construction workers, domestic workers you know, hospital healthcare workers. Like, there's just, there's a lot out there where you can work really hard but not make a lot of money. And so we have to question, is that actually true?
Personal Journey and Transformation
Elyse Archer: So when I graduated college, I had actually gone to school for journalism and then I found out how much you would make as a journalist.
And I was like, okay. It was a, I was gonna be a newspaper reporter, by the way, which is completely, they could tells how old I am, which is comical. But that was my path and I said. No, that's not gonna, that's not gonna fund my shoe habit. And so I went into sales and kind of rose up the ranks in corporate.
And I found myself in my late twenties having checked all the boxes of what I thought I was supposed to do to be successful. I was making low six figures at the time. Had a, a nice house, nice car, was married, had done all again, checked all the boxes, and on the outside was presenting. As if I had everything together, but on the inside I was very broken.
So really bad anxiety, panic attacks. I had never had panic attacks in my life up until I, actually, it was, I, the first one I had was like right before I got married to my first husband. And I was like, Ooh, I don't know what this is. I haven't experienced this before, but I was really out of alignment and with what I was meant to be doing.
And. You know, there's no shoulds. I learned great lessons from it, but I was out of alignment and I didn't realize that was causing the panic attacks. Had an eating disorder. Um, a lot of fear and anxiety about money too, even though again, outwardly I was in theory successful. And so at the time, um, that's actually how I discovered podcasting.
'cause I was working in outside sales and. I would drive two to three hours to go visit my customers. And the voice in my head that was telling me like, something is wrong, something is wrong, something is wrong. It got so loud that I didn't like sitting with it in the quiet of those drives. And so that's how I came across podcasting, which was totally, this was a while ago, so it was newer then.
But I wanted something to fill the space so I didn't have to be alone with my thoughts. And through podcasting I found personal development. That was not something I'd really been exposed to a lot growing up. Wonderful parents, both very academically gifted and smart. That was a lot of what was taught in our household, celebrated in our household.
But things like change your thoughts, change your life. Things that we now know and breathe and live and embody in our community and in this work, I hadn't been exposed to those things. So started down that rabbit hole and I decided to make some really big changes in my life and in a short amount of time, left the marriage left my corporate job had.
Really, I, I knew I wanted to be a coach, start a coaching business. I had one client who paid me $300 to review a presentation for him, for his, some company He was starting, and I said, proof of concept, I can make money outside of corporate. Let's go. Here we go. I'm outta here. There, there's a lot more butt clenching moments in that it wasn't going to any see, but, but I.
Oh, wow. I, I knew I was meant to do something else and I was called to go somewhere else and really started over in many ways and I spent about the next 10 years you know, growing a company, doing coaching. Again, healing a lot met. Met a new partner who, he's now my husband, the father of my three, uh, my three kids, and have moved 10 times in 10 years, which is crazy.
When I realized that the other day that we had done that, I was like, that's nuts. Yeah. But what I'll, what I'll share in terms of money specifically.
Reevaluating Money and Success
Elyse Archer: I guess this is a more recent pivot point, is that even when I made those changes and had kind of, had gotten out of a lot of challenging times in my twenties and early thirties and, um, had healed a lot, money still felt tricky and money still felt hard.
And still, no matter, even though I was in, I was working my business doing something I loved. No matter how hard I worked, I always made low six figures exactly what I'd made in corporate. And I still had a lot of anxiety and limiting beliefs about money. And long story short, 'cause it could take the rest of the time we have and I don't wanna do that.
Right before I turned 35, I made the decision that I was done letting money rule my life. I realized how much time and energy I had been devoting to. Making myself wrong for wanting money, not trusting myself with it. Analyzing every purchase, analyzing every investment, beating myself up if I did something, quote unquote wrong with it, and I just thought like, my life is worth a lot more than this.
Money is meant to be a tool that supports and fuels my life. It's not supposed to be my life itself. And right around that time, a dear friend of mine who was my podcast co-host at the time, he passed away at age 39 in his sleep, uh, left behind a wife and five kids. And I remember thinking, I hope, I think I have a lot more to live.
It's funny as we record this, I am as old as he was then. But I, I thought, gosh, finally had like four years left. Would I have lived out my fullest life that I came here on the planet to do? And the answer was absolutely not. And so I decided to get radically uncomfortable to finally do whatever I needed to do to break out of the comfort zone I had been in for so long.
And here's the thing with our comfort zone it doesn't actually feel comfortable. It's what we know, but it's not actually comfortable. And you know, I know you know this Lord, 'cause you get this, but there's a point at which your comfort zone becomes a cage. And so it was my comfort zone to stay stuck at low six figures.
It was my comfort zone to devote a lot of my time and my energy to second guessing myself, doubting myself putting others on the pedestal, but not myself to being in fear and anxiety about money. Like that was my comfort zone, but it wasn't what I wanted, and so I just decided I was worth more than that.
And I did a lot in a short amount of time to get really uncomfortable to have to face those limiting beliefs that I've been holding onto for so long. I invested half of what I made the year before in coaching. Didn't have the money, didn't know even how I was gonna pay for all of it, but I was like, I'm gonna do something to get so out of.
My box with how I've been thinking and, and have to, you know, be forced to face these beliefs that have been controlling me for so long. Because my intuitive guidance was to do it even though it didn't make sense logically on paper, my intuitive guidance was, do it. This is the right move. Analytical mind was like, what are you doing?
This is crazy. This is nuts. But I had learned enough to trust the intuition and know that you will only connect the dots looking backwards as Steve Jobs said. And I started putting myself out there on social media like never before. Launched a new program and, um, did a lot of deep work around limiting beliefs with money, with my self-concept, my identity, uh, with examining, every belief I had ever held onto about myself, about what was possible, about what I was capable of, and did a lot of deep energetic rewiring, did a lot of e child work too, which you know very, very well, and which you're quite masterful at.
And in six weeks I went from having been stuck at the same level for over 10 years to 10 Xing, turning my annual income into my monthly income. And I worked less. It was a different type of work, but I worked less. It wasn't as hard. It was hard inwardly, 'cause I got to bump up against a lot of limiting beliefs.
But then it was actually really fun and freeing, which was exciting 'cause I stopped giving so many Fs about what other people thought. I started focusing on what I wanted to do instead. So, um, so I now I. Live, breathe teach this you know it 'cause you're in the community and in the program there's a methodology that I kind of downloaded afterwards when I was like, what happened?
How did that happen so fast? We call it the four quadrants of quantum sales growth. And we more than happy to offer your audience a, a link to a training with that. But that was, that was a big pivot point that where I actually understood money in a different way. I understood. Selling in a different way.
I understood, um, work in a different way and have really learned. It's so true. Your results will never supersede your identity. So if you want a different level of results, there's a new identity, there's a new level of consciousness, there's a new level of you that you get to bring to that. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Wow.
Laura: many,
Gems.
And
Thinking about the
Elyse Archer: I'm thinking about the listener who this.
Laura: of like, at the starting
Elyse Archer: It's kind of like at the starting
Laura: so many
Elyse Archer: point, because you said so many phrase Jen, question
Laura: Work on limited. What even is limiting
Elyse Archer: what even is,
Laura: of the listener who's
Elyse Archer: right? I'm thinking Melissa, like I've never read word all these terms energetics inner child
Laura: stood out
Elyse Archer: and you know, what stood out to me the most fully, because I'm thinking back to like when I first met you.
Laura: what is
Elyse Archer: I think what is so beautiful about the work told
Laura: how
Elyse Archer: is how you break down.
Laura: Because for me, like before I
Elyse Archer: For me, like before I met you, I have already been doing self work for
Laura: five to seven years
Elyse Archer: seven years. Yeah. And I understood limiting beliefs in job, that of thing.
Laura: you
Elyse Archer: something you said you said that you decided you
Laura: want
Elyse Archer: didn't wanna make money to
Laura: and.
Elyse Archer: And I think.
Laura: a
Elyse Archer: a
Laura: that
Elyse Archer: belief that the people
Laura: normalized
Elyse Archer: normalized because society looks like that, right?
Like don't change jobs until you have one in place. So
Laura: your
Elyse Archer: make sure your job is secure, whatever that means. So can
Laura: you talk a little
Elyse Archer: you talk a little bit more about how money
Laura: into,
Elyse Archer: into,
Laura: like,
Elyse Archer: into like.
Laura: how people maybe
Elyse Archer: People maybe don't
Laura: for it, so to
Elyse Archer: go for it, so to speak. Mm. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Well, we UA lot of people will use money as an excuse, right. So to your point of why people don't go for it and they hide behind not having enough money, but there's a lot, there's a lot to it.
And so it's, um. I wanna say it, my relationship with money has changed so over the years and I used to let it rule me in that I put it energetically above me. Like, and people will do this unconsciously without even realizing it. But if you're somewhat, here's what I'll say is if you're someone right now who's like, I can't do it 'cause I don't have the money.
Or you're listening to what I'm saying and you're, you're becoming aware, like. You know what? Part of me doesn't feel worthy of more. It may, you may already be consciously aware of that, or you may need to sit with it for a little bit. Or if you judge rich people, if you judge people who talk about money, who have money, et cetera, then your relationship with money is out of alignment.
So I think this is really important. Money is a relationship and I mean, money is a concept we've created. Like it's not even really real if you think about it. And I think that's where I used to get it twisted. I would make it so much bigger than me. And to me, a lot of the journey has been a very spiritual journey.
And so I will, I'm a very spiritual woman. I will speak and use terms and I would say with all of this, like, please, for everyone listening, use your own language here. Insert whatever it is that you call God source universe. Like use your own language. Here, I'll just kind of speak with my own, with my own language, but the journey has actually been a deeply spiritual one of, um.
Spiritual and Energetic Shifts
Elyse Archer: Remembering that I am and that we are spiritual beings having a human experience and we are all part of one consciousness, one God. That's how I see it. And, um. As that my job here, your job here, our job here is to live out our fullest expression and expansion. And when I was stuck in the box and stuck at 10 k months and stuck in a lot of the limiting beliefs about money, I certainly wasn't living my fullest expression.
I was devoting all of my energy and attention to. Am I like, you know, am I making wrong decisions with money? Am I, is it okay for Like I had much bigger desires than I could. I think this is where the rub came. I had much bigger desires than I had seen, was like, okay to go for or safe to go for growing up.
And my inner child, though younger, part of me, didn't know if it was okay, didn't feel safe, didn't feel worthy. So there was a lot of self-questioning as I would kind of like push the edge of, oh, we never. We didn't really fly first class growing up. I think we did once on a trip to Europe, but it was like a big deal and there was a lot of talk about clipping coupons and a lot of just scarcity and fear energy about money.
And I wanted a more expansive life, Laura. Like I wanted, I wanted the good life. I wanted the life. I saw these cool female entrepreneurs who were making seven figures plus living. I wanted to fly first class a lot. I wanted the beautiful Valentino shoes. I wanted a certain type of home. I wanted all of those things, but I felt bad about it, and I made myself wrong for it for a long time.
And what I, what I didn't realize was that. That was just part of who I am. That's part of who I came here to be. Each of us has a Florence Shin talks about this in the game of life and how to play it. Each of us has a divine design, which is a pattern for your life. Which is when you allow yourself to expand fully, what does that look like?
That's gonna be different for everyone. Like yours can be the penthouse and certain views and certain type of lifestyle and travel and impact. For someone else, they may say, you know, I actually want complete location independence. I wanna travel around the world and live in hotels or hostels or wherever they wanna live and do their thing.
Like if that is the fullest expression of them, do it. Your fullest expression of you is gonna be different. But in my own journey I had, I really hadn't looked at that a lot. 'cause so much of my programming and my focus was on survival, scarcity, paying the bills, getting by, which I think is, again, that's the collective consciousness.
That's why I wanna invite people to question everything, because I think a lot of people are walking around completely asleep. And so when you wake up to this work and you start. Questioning, why am I here? Who am I? Like the big life questions, the things that you actually know the answer to. But a lot of times you stopped thinking about early on.
You'll find that if you ask it enough there will be intelligence that downloads. There will be information that unfolds. There will be a knowing within you that unfolds. So money is just meant to fuel that vision, whatever that is. So for every person's fullest expression, there's a certain amount of money that's required in that.
For some people it may be, I don't know, 50 grand a year. For other people it's gonna be 5 billion a year or beyond. It doesn't really, to me the number doesn't matter. It's about you living your richest life, your fullest expression, you knowing what that is, being okay with it expanding too. 'cause I think that you reach one level and you're like.
Holy crap, there could be so much more. And there's nothing wrong with that either. That's just you becoming more aware of things you weren't aware of before. But we wanna learn to create a good relationship with money where we are the master. It is a servant where we appreciate it, where we love it, where we are grateful for what it does for our life.
But where we are in charge and we know that we can create more of it, that we can generate more of it, that we're available to circulate it too. It's meant to circulate and flow from person to person on the planet. And, and when we create that healthy relationship with money, and there's a lot more to it than we probably have to about today.
But it, it becomes just part of the how of your vision, not the vision itself. It helps fuel. Your vision, and that was a big shift that happened for me when I started calling in more money. I stopped making money. God, I remembered who I was. I finally, I did the work to feel worthy of what I wanted, and now money is just like a really fun tool that I get to play with.
Does that make sense?
Laura: It,
Heartfelt Reflections and Listener Connection
Elyse Archer: I explained it. It
Laura: again,
Elyse Archer: again,
Laura: like, I feel like I
Elyse Archer: like I feel like I can.
Laura: day podcast with you and it still wouldn't be enough. I, I just have to say
Elyse Archer: I just have to say, like, I just, I've heard this from you,
Laura: every
Elyse Archer: but it just, every time it just,
Laura: it really opens
Elyse Archer: it really opens my, my heart
Laura: like
Elyse Archer: it's like
Laura: were at a
Elyse Archer: you were at a place where you've done before and it's like, I'm seeing you and I'm hearing your voice, and I'm feeling your energy, and it's like, oh, wow,
Laura: is possible.
Elyse Archer: possible.
Laura: I'm thinking about the listener, and by the way, listener, this is me too, can't even
Elyse Archer: Can't even connect to their vision because they're so.
Laura: Blocked. So can you talk about how
Elyse Archer: How decision
Laura: to you and
Elyse Archer: came to you, but also be still honest about your process.
Laura: yes, I'm
Elyse Archer: You said, yeah, I'm done making money.
Laura: that like for you?
'cause
Elyse Archer: Was that like for you?
Laura: you said there was a lot of but clenching moments and I just wanna
Elyse Archer: Yeah.
Laura: transparent to the listeners, like, Hey look, this is what it could look like. And look at where Elise is now.
Elyse Archer: Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Tapping into Your Vision and Goal Setting
Elyse Archer: Well, to your first question of, you know, tapping into your vision for what is the fullest expression of you and I, I was actually sharing this on a group call today because I think that the space that we, at least, that I live in and play in, and you're in this space as well ' cause you're part of the community.
There's so much conversation around goal setting and expansion and dreaming big and visioning big, that it feels very normal and natural. And I think that. That's very common. This past week though, I was out, I was speaking at an event in Canada and I did a women's lunch with a group of the the attendees there the day after the keynote.
And so many women in that room were saying like. I don't have goals. I don't know what my goals are. I don't, and women were like, I don't know what I want. You know, some of the women you could tell had come from challenging, pretty challenging upbringings, and were like, I'm living day to day. I like, I'm just focused on paying the bills and getting by.
And it was interesting because I think when you, I'm, I'm obviously in the personal development space. We do this work, you forget sometimes, like I know consciously, but sometimes you forget how much of the world. Doesn't actually live or think this way. And that's part of why we do what we do, is I, I want as many people as possible to be able to expand in this lifetime to the fullest potential for them.
But a lot of women were saying things like, I don't know what I want. I don't have goals right now. And Bob Proctor had this great saying, he said, goals are not to get, goals are to grow. And so that to me is always, that was a big shift when it came to goal setting was I used to, um. I used to set a goal and then like I would feel, uh, nervous that it wasn't gonna happen, or I would feel like, okay, when it happens, then I'm gonna feel good, then I'm gonna feel successful.
And what I really learned is the, the point of setting a goal, it's not so much to get the thing, although that's fun and that's exciting and it's wonderful when it happens. It's lovely and you're like, yes, this is great word, please. But it's, it's really about who do you get to become in the process?
'cause you take that with you. So, so I say all of that to say it's a, a slightly different twist on goal setting, but if someone's listening and they say, I don't know what I want right now, like maybe they're checking the box. They're get, they're doing their job. What I would say to that is, you do know.
The deep part of you knows, you're probably too afraid to say it. You probably stop believing in it.
Overcoming Limiting Beliefs and Embracing Desires
Elyse Archer: You've probably got a lot of limiting beliefs, and if someone's listening, you're like, what in the world is a limiting belief? It's any thought pattern that tells you that you can't be, do or have whatever is a soul aligned desire for you.
So you do know, and I would say if you did know, what would it be? If you did know, what would it be? Now, you may need to sit with it. You may need to give it a couple of days, but I bet deep down when I say that there's something that you want, there's something that you wanna go after. There's some sort of change you wanna make.
Maybe you wanna leave corporate, start your company. Maybe you want to move into a dream home. Maybe you want to buy your mom this trip, you wanna write a book, you wanna launch a nonprofit. There's something, you're afraid of it, right? 'cause it's the unknown. But you do know. Deep down. And so what I have learned is that your desires are green lights.
So that calling the fact that you want to do that thing is part of the inte key of your soul. It's part of the divine design. It's part of the pattern, the blueprint of your fullest expression of you. You are meant to do it. It is meant to happen. I use the analogy of, um. Basketball players like you've met me in person.
So people usually think I'm taller than I am. I'm a whopping, I think I'm not, I think I used to be five three. I'm not sure if I'm five three anymore and maybe like five, two and a half. I don't know. I'm somewhere between five two and five three. There is not a bone, there's not an ounce of jealousy in my body.
When I look at amazing women in the WNBA playing basketball, like there's nothing in me. That's like, Ooh, I want that, or that feels jealous or resentful. Nothing, not the pattern or the blueprint for this lifetime. That's okay. It's not part of my divine design. I'm not meant to do it. It's all good. But I am meant to speak.
I am meant to serve on that. I am meant to be a a, I used to not say stuff like this, but a world known thought leader, coach, speaker, trainer. I've embraced it. I'm cool with it. And so when I see people operating at an even higher level than me in my field. I don't get jealous. I used to, now I don't get jealous.
Now I'm like, yes, thank you. Thank you for showing what's possible that, so that calling that you feel towards whatever it is that you want, it can be something in your occupation, it can be a home, it can be a relationship that is your green light, that you're meant to go for it. So you gotta stop questioning it and start trusting it.
All right. What was the second part
Laura: Yes.
Elyse Archer: the moment, the butt clenching moments.
Laura: us through
Elyse Archer: Yeah. Right. You
Laura: a
Elyse Archer: made a, you made a decision.
Laura: making money rule my life, and
Elyse Archer: Yeah.
Laura: I think it's easy to think. Oh, well, of course
Elyse Archer: Oh, well, course.
Laura: just, she's, she's a money person. She just, you know, changed like that and yeah. So walk us through what that was like.
Navigating Financial Discomfort and Personal Growth
Elyse Archer: It was so scary because I was so, it was in it. Yeah. I, I'm so glad you brought that up, Laura, because I don't wanna make it sound like it was like, oh, it's easy, blah, blah, blah. I think we teach the things that we are, that we get to learn in this lifetime, and a lot of times those are the areas where we've had the biggest challenges or struggles where we feel the most insecure, where we felt the most pain, you know?
So it was not at all like a. I'm just gonna go, you know, invest X amount that I don't have in getting wildly uncomfortable. It was wildly uncomfortable. And the decision, I'll say it like this, it was similar to when I got coaching for healing with the eating disorder that I had dealt with in my, my teens and my, um, early to mid twenties.
And when I realized that the eating disorder was never about food, it was about not listening to my intuition, not trusting myself. It was about control. It was about not feeling good enough. And I remember the first I and I when I really got that, and I finally felt free. I remember, um, sounds so funny, but I was, I was doing an intensive with my coach at the time and I had like booked an overnight at a hotel that we were working at during the day.
And I woke up the next morning and I felt free for the first time and I was like, what, what do I wanna do? Like, what does my body actually wanna do right now? And I felt like belly dancing, which sounds ridiculous 'cause I'd always had a lot of stuff about my body, especially my stomach. I just remember belly dancing, like finally feeling so free because food no longer me.
It was actually, it was like a coming back into myself and honoring of myself. But I had had to be willing to get uncomfortable to verbalize that I was struggling in an area and actually look at what the real thing was. That was creating the pattern and the cycle, which wasn't food. It was me not trusting myself, me not feeling good enough, and me feeling like I was trying to control anything I could outside of me because I didn't feel in control inside.
And that was a very freeing and liberating moment. So when I decided to take back my power in the area of money, it was similar where it was like, it was just this awareness of I am worth more. Then letting money rule and control my life, not from the energy of, okay, I'm just gonna go live off the grid and not have to deal with it.
Although, that is fine if that's someone's choice, but it was the energy of like, no, I want more that. I want a lot more of it. I want, I know I meant to live a way more expansive life. What is this all about? Why do I have money so twisted? Why am I so uncomfortable with it? Why does it feel hard? And so I think a lot of times to shake ourselves out of that cage, we gotta do something really uncomfortable in that area.
And for me, it was investing what felt like an astronomical amount for me at the time into coaching. And then it was looking, I did that cause I knew it would bring up every limiting belief I'd ever had about money. And I got to deal with it. And it wasn't easy. It certainly wasn't. And it brought up a ton of limiting beliefs and a ton of fear.
But I, I had to finally look at it and then I realized that they were all lies. And you realize that's why I want people to question everything, because a lot of times you're being controlled by lies and you don't even realize it.
Laura: What kept
Elyse Archer: Yeah,
Laura: moving through the discomfort and not going back to, you know, I make like six figures. Isn't
Elyse Archer: yeah.
Laura: good enough? Like, what's, what's
Elyse Archer: Yeah.
Laura: wrong with me? You know, like, what, prompted you to just
Elyse Archer: Just
Laura: say no, I'm
Elyse Archer: say No, I'm the wiring. Yeah. Yeah.
The Power of Emotional States and Quantum Leaps
Elyse Archer: Well I think part of it was when, you know, when you take an action where it's like you've actually got commitment, you've got something on the line it's a different energy. Like that's why a lot of people will listen to a great quantum leap story and say, oh, that sounds really nice.
Okay, I'm gonna, when the money's there, I'll do that. When the resources are there, I'll do that. When this happens, I'll do that. You're not gonna quantum leap from that energy, so you can't get the quantum leap results and not being willing, not be willing to put it all on the line in that way. I think that's really important.
So you're gonna get out of it, the energy you put into it. And so I was, I was committed, like when I decided I was done playing small, I was done playing small and I was radically uncomfortable. But part of what was powerful and we actually teach, we teach this work in our community. There's a concept called beautiful states and suffering states.
And it's not, it's not my own. I know we give credit to who does it in the module. You may remember his name is David something. I'm completely blanking on it right now, but it's a powerful concept and it's essentially how do you know when you are thinking truth versus how do you know when you're thinking a limiting belief or a lie?
And the indicator is what's the feeling state in your body? So if I'm in a feeling state of love, expansion, joy, gratitude, peace, abundance, I can list, I can trust my thoughts from that place. Like the thoughts that I'm thinking from that emotional state are, they're only gonna match the feeling state. So they're gonna be thoughts of love, expansion, joy, abundance, et cetera.
That's my truth. That's what I listen to. If I am in an emotional state of fear, self doubt, uncertainty, panic, dread, anger, self, all of it, the thoughts that come from that feeling state are not my truth. They're, if you listen to those thoughts and act on those thoughts, they're not gonna get you where you wanna go.
And so. In the moment when you're having those thoughts and you're in that state, it doesn't necessarily get rid of them. But when you're conscious of this work and I was during that point, I could tune into my feeling state and say, okay. 'cause there was so many times when I felt self-doubt. There was so many times when I was like, what am I doing?
I should go back. I should stop. Like this isn't working so many of those times, probably every day. Multiple times a day. But I knew enough to say, how am I, what's my feeling state right now? Okay, this isn't truth. This is actually a lie that I'm thinking right now. So I'm gonna do what I need to do to get back into a beautiful state, which for me was listening to truth, listening to Abraham Hicks Joe Dispenza, Michael Beckwith, getting outside, like doing something to where I would feel my heart open up again.
And then from that place, it's like, okay, I'm not analyzing, I'm not micromanaging. I'm trusting the process again. My heart was open again. Then I would be like, okay, what's the next step I can take? Does that, does that make sense
Laura: That
Elyse Archer: help? That was so beautiful.
Laura: you know, like, 'cause I feel like you, you gave both the. The, the pain points, so to speak, of when
Elyse Archer: So
Laura: through it
Elyse Archer: going through
Laura: what
Elyse Archer: and then like what kept you anchored? Mm. Um,
Laura: and then,
Elyse Archer: and then yeah,
Laura: switch topics a
Elyse Archer: switch topics a little bit
Laura: know
Elyse Archer: because I know you've done, like
Laura: pivots at this point,
Elyse Archer: at this point.
Laura: you are
Elyse Archer: And
Laura: one right now.
So for the
Elyse Archer: so for the
Laura: has done a major pivot, and they're kind of like
Elyse Archer: kind of,
Laura: cusp, right? But
Elyse Archer: right. But maybe they're like.
Laura: Doubting, like, oh, why
Elyse Archer: Oh, why can't I be satisfied with, yeah. Can you tell us about
Laura: experience, uh, like in
Elyse Archer: Like in your current pivot now, like and how that's different? Mm. From
Laura: pivot
Elyse Archer: the first pivot?
Laura: about?
Elyse Archer: Yeah, for sure.
Embracing Leadership and the Big Vision
Elyse Archer: This one, there's a lot more, um, there's more on the line in certain ways. 'cause it's a lot, it's about a lot more people.
So the first pivot was, it was more about me getting unstuck. You know, and it was, so there was a lot of me
Laura: Mm-hmm.
Elyse Archer: it was, um, very uncomfortable financially. There was, there was definitely big discomfort with that. But then I, I did it and, you know, went on and we built a seven figure company, did all the things that were on my vision board, my goal card, um, and about close to this time last year, actually.
I was kind of sitting, I was never really sitting around, but I was doing whatever I was doing and in a place, I think we were on an RV trip at the time and things were just really good. Like things were just really good. I was like, man, I'm so grateful. This is it. This is the life I'm here. It happened and.
We all know that that's when we get the shakeup, that's when we get the invitation to think bigger. And I'd kind of been playing with, it was like these two different paths that were showing up at that time, and one was literally just stay where I was. Now what you and I both know is nothing is ever stagnant, so you're never just staying where you are.
But it was like, I'm gonna keep. Running a seven figure business. I'm going to, you know, coach, I'm gonna speak, I'm gonna train, I'm gonna, we were kind of maxed in terms of like what we could do. I had a, a very lean, mean team at that time. It, things were kind of full. It was like capacity was full. I can keep doing this.
This feels good. Got space for my kids, manifested a lot of my dreams, money feels good, et cetera. And simultaneously. Yeah, anytime I would see a video of, um, I don't know, it's like maybe emotional now, which is really, it's fun. It's good of Bob Proctor leading one of his seminars. I would in like a room full of people and consultants and team, I would start crying.
I would, there was something Laura that spoke to my soul. I would get so emotional watching him. The man's dead at this point, but I would watch like just his YouTube channel. And, um, watch videos of him teaching. And there was something in me that was like, you were meant to do this. And that was a whole nother level of leadership.
That was a whole nother level of visibility. That was a whole nother level of being seen, a whole nother level of business acumen that I didn't have. And it felt. Like the big, big vision. You know how you have like the vision, then you got the big, big vision about like the big, big one. And if when you're intuitive, which you are, and I am you, you just know when it's time to address something.
You know, when you're at one of those inflection points, one of those pivot points to your question, and I knew it was time to choose what path I was gonna go down, if I was gonna stay pretty much where I was, which was comfortable. Or if I was gonna go for something totally unknown, that felt scary and felt like a lot more visibility, a lot more eyes on me, a lot more responsibility.
And I had massive limiting beliefs about all of that. And what I ended up looking at was, well, if I just took fear out of the equation here, what would I do? And I realized that fear was the only. Reason I wouldn't go for the big, big vision. And that's when I knew it was my truth. And so I said yes, had a couple weeks of like full body just stuff coming up physically around that, like pain.
I don't even, I a lot of like gut clenching stuff. I just remember it was an uncomfortable season and it manifested physically. And, and so from there though, what's been beautiful, this was a, I don't know, maybe eight, 10 months ago is that the stars have aligned in such beautiful ways. It wasn't an immediate like, yes, here we go.
I hadn't actually seen myself in that type of a leadership role either. It felt heavy, it felt like a lot of responsibility. So I got to do a lot of deep inner work around that and a lot of re-patterning around that. And it's been an integration process since then. I actually spoke about it on one of our group calls this morning where it's probably been a solid like six to seven month period of really working through, I.
A lot of those beliefs, those, um, the identity of who is Elise as an eight figure, CEO, what does she, how does she operate? What's her team like? How is her relationship with money? It's very different than at the old level, and that's okay. But. A couple weeks ago, I just had a moment one day where it's like I had been in the becoming process for a long time and when when we set a new goal, we've gotta first become a match for that goal.
So I'd been in the becoming process and then one day I was just like, she's here. I'm her. That's it. It had clicked like working through the resistance and the limiting beliefs that had clicked. So what I know now, which is fun, is that from this place, it, you know. Things didn't, I didn't instantly have a eight figure business, but from this level of consciousness, I can now I see things differently.
I see my business differently. I see my team differently. I see money differently, and things are coming in, opportunities are coming in. Chances to act on that are coming in. So. It is consciousness first, second. But there's always gonna be another level. There's always gonna be another level of expansion.
And I think that when we are called to that, but we choose not to take action on it, that's when we manifest. Fights with our partners, we manifest injury. I'm, I'm not saying that things that happen to people are all because they're like holding back from their potential. I think there's a number of reasons why those things happen.
But what I do know is if you're called to go to another level and you don't, you will experience some contrast. You'll experience, um, things that don't feel great. My viewpoint on that is your soul being like, hello, trying to wake you up to pay attention to go so. That's a long answer to your question.
Laura: It, you know what I, what I
Elyse Archer: That's where we are now.
Laura: No. What I really
Elyse Archer: No, what I really love
Laura: like, you don't just talk the talk you. You walk the walk like you fully embody it and you're
Elyse Archer: Embody.
Laura: that it's not like I'm at the finish line, let me help you.
You're like, no, I am. moving. So whether
Elyse Archer: Yeah.
Laura: is like at the beginning part, like their first pivot or they're
Elyse Archer: Or they're.
Laura: shit, I'm going from seven to eight figures. really feel because of your experience and continued
Elyse Archer: Continued experience
Laura: really help
Elyse Archer: can really help them
Laura: if
Elyse Archer: through that. So if anyone
Laura: right now was
Elyse Archer: right now, like
Laura: scared. I
Elyse Archer: really scared. I don't know if I'm ready, but I'm
Laura: how would
Elyse Archer: Like Yeah.
Laura: how would they contact you or how would they get
Elyse Archer: How
Laura: 'cause you
Elyse Archer: get involved?
Laura: which I'm a part of.
Elyse Archer: Yeah. Yeah.
Laura: about you and the beautiful work that
Elyse Archer: Yeah. Oh, thank you.
Connecting with the Community and Resources
Elyse Archer: Well, you're such a leader in the community and I, I wanna acknowledge you for that because I feel like, um, that's just part of who you are.
Like, you're gr I just know this about you. You're great at community, community building, and so we're really we're, we're very honored to have you in the community and have you as part of what we're doing. And yeah, it's a beautiful group. I mean, it's, I just I love everyone. It's a very cool, very special energy that we have.
But yeah, absolutely would be so happy to connect with anyone who wants to go deeper or learn more. I. Uh, I'll share the free training link that we have if someone wants to say, Hey, what was you mentioned? So they were like, Hey, you mentioned four quadrants of quantum sales growth. Before. That is the process that I teach of how I 10 XD in six weeks.
How I went from being stuck for so long to quantum leaping. So I. I think we, we did a lot to uncover some of that today, which is great, but, and there's way more, so it's a seven, um, a seven day free mini course. You can go to elise archer.com/four quadrants and, uh, and let us know that you came in from Laura's community as well from the Pivot Point podcast.
I think that's really special and important. We wanna give her listeners a shout out. And then I'm at Elly Archer website is elly archer.com. So please DM, reach out. Let us again, let me know that you came in from Laura's podcast and her community. I just think that the more people who are doing this work the better and, and we can all rise up together as a collective.
So I just, again, I appreciate you being in the community and you being a part of what we're doing. And you are, you are in your own quantum leap. You are living and embodying this right now, and it's really fun to see.
Laura: Absolutely. Thank you, Elise. I'll
Elyse Archer: Thank you.
Fun and Final Thoughts
Laura: that in the show notes and I have one final question that I ask
Elyse Archer: Question that I ask.
Laura: that's on the show.
Elyse Archer: Perfect.
Laura: you were an item at a shop, so
Elyse Archer: Coffee. So like
Laura: tea,
Elyse Archer: coffee?
Laura: pastry, what would you be and why?
Elyse Archer: that's a good question. Oh, you know what I would be, I mean, this is just what I crave, so I'll probably, I'd probably be a chocolate covered espresso bean. You know, like we got those at the airport the other day. They're so addicted. And I will say I'm a woman who eats pretty healthy and I love my chocolate.
I've given myself permission to just like, I, I love my chocolate, my dark chocolate especially. It's gotta be dark chocolate. And now that I am not actively pregnant right now, I'm also really here for a good caffeine kick. So I'd be a chocolate covered espresso. Mean probably for no other reason than I really like them.
So that's probably what I would be.
Laura: Yeah,
Elyse Archer: Yeah.
Laura: now I feel like
Elyse Archer: Now I feel like I should get some.
Laura: dangerous
Elyse Archer: feel like I should get some too.
Laura: you can only have, so easy to overeat, but the consequences are not that great.
Elyse Archer: I know maybe I should be something else for my brand,
Laura: Nope.
Elyse Archer: but they're delicious.
Laura: they are, they are delicious. Elise, thank you so much for joining me here. I'm sure the listeners have learned a lot and are now even more like I need to learn more. I really appreciate you making the time and hope you have a great
Elyse Archer: Of course. Thank you, Laura. So much love to you.
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